Tom's comment on age of vintage owners

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Post by mcmichael »

Wanted a Ferrari since I was 12--about when my GTC was made. 48 when I bought it, 51 now.

Of course, I wish I'd done it earlier, but never too late, I say.

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Post by Michael Greenspan »

I got my 330 America for my 60th birthday. Finally got to drive it about 9 months later and I am now going to be 62. Does that make me the site's Methusela??

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Michael Greenspan wrote:I got my 330 America for my 60th birthday. Finally got to drive it about 9 months later and I am now going to be 62. Does that make me the site's Methusela??

Michael Greenspan, 330 America 4969
Looks like you're the front runner for now.
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Post by whturner »

sam231 wrote:Lord, it's beginning to look like I'm the grand OLD man!
Don't know about that - your profile says you are still working.
And (TYang) some (not enough) of us 3/4 century old geezers also use computers. I was bit put out when a young girl (freshman in college) I was playing tennis with was totally amazed when she found out I looked after the computers at our local library. " I didn't know anyone your age used computers"

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Post by Bryan P »

I got the 365 5 years ago when I was 37.

Dad got the 500 Mondial 45 years ago when he was 24.
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Post by lukek »

so far...with 97 repondents, we have:

View Poll Results: If you own a vintage car, what is your age?
18-28 3 3.09%
28-38 22 22.68%
38-48 34 35.05%
48-58 25 25.77%
58-68 9 9.28%
68-100 4 4.12%

Voting is here:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74218
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Survey Interpretation:

Post by whturner »

As one of your "old curmudgeons" - age 74 I will participate some here.
With 97 Respondents you have a good start, but too many variables are involved to tune the interpretation too fine, not the least of which is that it was inferred, but not specified, that the poll was about Ferrari owners. Or was I wrong on that?
The bell shaped curve is no doubt correct, but only one more or less vote in, for example, in the 68 to 100 age range changes the numbers for that range too much to be comfortable with any interpretation. If I did not have a Ferrari I probably would have voted, since "Vintage" includes my other cars, and I would still read the forums. I think you would need a lot more data to draw any conclusions about the outliers at both the high or low end.

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Re: Survey Interpretation:

Post by lukek »

Your 330, in the fchat classification, is defined as "vintage". Classic is 308,328, etc, while modern is 355 and later. You can vote since you have a vintage Ferrari. And, no, this is not meant to be a scientific poll ( I do stats when testing software at work, so I know about the sample size and biases). I just think that it is a neat data point about how many internet savvy folks own vintage Ferraris, and at what age.
BTW, if anyone enjoys old cars, it is downright masochistic to not take advantage of the resources that the net offers.

whturner wrote:As one of your "old curmudgeons" - age 74 I will participate some here.
With 97 Respondents you have a good start, but too many variables are involved to tune the interpretation too fine, not the least of which is that it was inferred, but not specified, that the poll was about Ferrari owners. Or was I wrong on that?
The bell shaped curve is no doubt correct, but only one more or less vote in, for example, in the 68 to 100 age range changes the numbers for that range too much to be comfortable with any interpretation. If I did not have a Ferrari I probably would have voted, since "Vintage" includes my other cars, and I would still read the forums. I think you would need a lot more data to draw any conclusions about the outliers at both the high or low end.

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Poll on age of ownership.(of a Ferrari)

Post by whturner »

I did not mean to put down the poll - I like it, or I wouldn't have voted in it. I kind of disagree on one point - it is scientific within the limits of its intent.
The predominant age group (old!) seen at shows is just as striking in my Ford V-8 club ('32-'53), and the Antique car shows. But I suspect if the same poll were taken on the internet, the same curve would show up. On the other hand, the later model cars attract a younger crowd. At least younger than I am.
I have no conclusion to draw, and indulging in a multivariate analysis would be for someone who likes numbers better than I do.
I will say: Ruedi had an interesting suggestion - that recent buyers represent a distinct group of owners who might be more apt to vote than the overall ownership. One could argue this on the basis of modern production numbers vs. survivability of Vintage cars.

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Post by lukek »

Not to mention that anytime i show up at an event, folks are always curious about my 250 gte and not the modern cars as much. For example, Ferrari made about 16,000 Modena based cars, and only 950 GTEs. If you look at the GTEs, 136 have been rebodied, 207 are unaccounted for, and 38 have been parted out. Add to that number of cars that are not currently roadworthy....(Bill might have more recent numbers).
The picture is very different on the street, or in the wild. Joe Public mostly ignores my car, while he/she flocks to the 360 Modena.
In the end, it is OK if I am talking to the old guys at car shows. They have more to tell me...
:)
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Post by tim »

Greetings... ooopppss. I mis-stated my age when the big yellow taxi came to live with me. I was 27 (1976) and I have had it over half my life. (I'm starting to feel old. Time for a drive is something interesting) Tim
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Post by gerry »

was 26 when I bought my GTE (s/n 3619). now I'm 43 and it's still with me...
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Post by Steve Meltzer »

I first lusted for a Ferrari when I was a teenager (and, yes, I lusted for other things then as well!) but grew up in a town that didn't even have a VW dealer. (Central Kansas, 60's). However, I didn't get my first (and only) V12 until last year, and now I'm 56 (had to stop and think about that for a moment! ) Hope I won't be too demented to drive the thing, now that I've finally got it. steve
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Post by klv »

How about a sub-category of female Ferrari owners? Kelly bought the 365GT from her then boss a few years ago aged about 30! We had always wanted a V12 and assumed we would have to 'trade up' through the lesser V8 cars at some stage, but the opportunity came up just at the time when there was a little spare cash in the house...I won't give exact figures re age as she doesn't know I'm posting this :lol:
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Post by lukek »

My wife has never driven the Ferrari, but I do not have to twist her arm when it comes to the modern Maserati. ...I am also not allowed to dsiclose age...but I married a younger woman...
:)
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