best source for Cibie H4 headlights

[Steve Meltzer]

Think I'd like to put some 7" Cibie (or Hella) unsealed beams in my 330 GTC, if I ever find another headlamp bezel! Years ago I had these very nice (as my old memory recalls) Z-beam Cibies. Any idea where I'd get a pair at a good price? Looks like some repros are on eBay. thanx steve

[matt]

Did you get the ring?

[Yale]

Have you gone to the Dan Stern site?

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/prod ... ducts.html

Here is a list conversation about lighting that might be interesting:


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Daniel Stern Lighting wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Rich Jordan wrote:

>>I've had a set of Carello "JOD H4" and the companion H1 high beams on my
>>Challenger for 15+ years; they were marvelous compared to the stockers,

> Yes. Good lamps. About equal to conventional Cibies or Marchals, better
> than Hellas or Bosches.


Thanks for the info. I never got to see the Marchals or other Cibies,
but I really liked the light pattern and visibility with the Carellos.


>>We used the old Cibie 'Z' sealed beam halogens on other cars

> Nuh-uh. There was never such a thing as a "Z-beam sealed-beam halogen".
> There was the Z-beam, which was an interesting kind of "halfway European,
> halfway US" beam pattern (out of production since '91). It was not sealed.
> There was also the Cibie "BOBI" of 1980-1984, billed as a "Bulb-type
> sealed beam". It was DOT-approved (which meant a rotten beam pattern) and
> had a clear glass balloon sealing off the bulb from the reflector and
> lens. It only lasted a few years.


We still have a set on my Dad's truck. Cibie, with a 'Z' sticker in the
center of the lens, the reflector/lens unit is sealed with an H4
element in the back. I'm going totally from memory since the box and
receipts are long gone, but I was pretty certain they were called 'Z'
something, and they definitely have the little glass bubble between the
H4 and the interior.



>>the Carellos had a much nicer, sharper pattern. Very interesting to
>>know you can get these newer ones in the old quad round size... but do
>>you have any idea how they compare to my Carellos?

> As above, the out-of-production Carello JOD is about equal to the
> conventional Cibie H4 and H1 (and their out-of-production Marchal
> counterparts), and the Complex Surface Reflector Cibies beat *all* of the
> conventional parabolic lamps from any maker.

> DS


Yale

[sam231]

Steve,

You might try Fred Petroskie athttp://www.mostlybritish.com or Paul Baber athttp://www.racecar.co.uk/paulbaber/Index.htm for trim ring. I had good luck on 330 2+2 parts through Fred and Baber shows a box of trim rings.

Good hunting.

Sam

[Steve Meltzer]

thanx for the quick responses. I haven't gotten a bezel yet, but I think one of the list members may have rounded (pun intended) up two of them for me. Neither Baber nor Petroske had a bezel, tho' Petroske was bidding against me for one on eBay (ultimately, neither of us got it). Think I'll email Stern. thanx again. s

[whturner]

I got my Cibies from Aardvark International -

http://www.cibieusa.com/

They also have the Talbot mirrors which were discussed in another thread

Cheers
Warren

[Art S.]

Steve,

I have the Carello H4s, I think they are the best of the H4s models, mounted (they were NOS when I put them on a few years ago). I just bought a set of Marchal Ampliluxes (double H1 bulbs). If they produce the effect I like, I may be willing to part with my H4 lights.

Regards,

Art S.