365 GT 2 + 2 restoration

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A.D.
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Well its stopped pouring but still heavily overcast. We’ve waited so many many years so we thought we may as well wait just a wee bit longer for the sun to come out.

While we wait the thought is to start collecting
parts required for a front and rear suspension job

Based on the vast experience in this forum - Are there any do’s and donts? Is there a rebuild kit for the kone self levelling shocks? Our thought is to get all the parts like bhusings etc from Rutlands. Is this the right vendor or should we be looking at someone else who is familiar with the queen and would carry all parts required?

Tom - was going through your blog and noticed that for Mike’s Queen you said Koni no longer rebuild the self levelling shocks but provide a coil over shock kit which is a nice bolt in. Could you give me some more information - whom to contact and a part nr?

Thanks
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A.D. wrote:Well its stopped pouring but still heavily overcast. We’ve waited so many many years so we thought we may as well wait just a wee bit longer for the sun to come out.

While we wait the thought is to start collecting
parts required for a front and rear suspension job

Based on the vast experience in this forum - Are there any do’s and donts? Is there a rebuild kit for the kone self levelling shocks? Our thought is to get all the parts like bhusings etc from Rutlands. Is this the right vendor or should we be looking at someone else who is familiar with the queen and would carry all parts required?

Tom - was going through your blog and noticed that for Mike’s Queen you said Koni no longer rebuild the self levelling shocks but provide a coil over shock kit which is a nice bolt in. Could you give me some more information - whom to contact and a part nr?

Thanks
Hi A.D.

Partsource has the Koni shock update, but Rutlands may have it too. It's a coil over set up that replaces the load leveling shock.

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Happy Thanksgiving!

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She’s on the road!!

Thank the Lord

And thank you guys.

Still many bridges to cross

But this was a major milestone!
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Congratulations on a successful maiden voyage.

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Great news A.D. It has been tough but now you can begin to really enjoy the car. Please keep us all posted on your continued progress . Mike
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Wonderful news. Very happy to hear this.
I have very much enjoyed reading about your mechanical journey.
Please continue to inform us of your further progress.
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Have started on the suspension rebuild.

A couple of questions

Are bolt in replacements available for the shocks or do we
Have to get them rebuilt?

Also the self levelling unit - who specialities in reliably
Rebuilding them?

Thanks
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A.D. wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:31 am Have started on the suspension rebuild.

A couple of questions

Are bolt in replacements available for the shocks or do we
Have to get them rebuilt?

Also the self levelling unit - who specialities in reliably
Rebuilding them?

Thanks
Hi AD,

They make a coil over replacement kit for the load levelling shocks for the 365-400 series cars with these shocks. They will no longer be automatically adjustable, but can be adjusted manually like a coil over. I believe the original shocks were problematic and the seals fail often enough that even with a rebuild, they will prematurely fail again.

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Hi A.D. I have used the coil over update on my 365gtc4 for many years with no problems.Mike
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Thanks for the feedback

Could you give me a couple of names where i could get
The coil over update?

And what about the self levelling unit?

Once the coil over update installed just disconnect it?
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Hi A.D. the fix is very simple. Just remove the self leveling shock and replace it with the coilover.It will look the same as the remaining rear shock except that there is a coil spring and adjusting nuts to even the height in the rear.It is a simple swap.I think I got mine from Rutlands or GT Car Parts but I do not remember.It is easy and works great.Good luck,Mike
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Hi

A question for all the folks driving a vintage Ferrari in
California or other such warm climates.

Have you faced a problem of the coils overheating and consequently the car shutting down?

How does one fix this?
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Re: 365 GT 2 + 2 restoration

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Greetings... For a conventional ignition, check the resistance across the oils and ballot resistors. It should measure about 3 ohms. If you disconnect the resistor (the square burgundy thingy) from the coil both should measure about 1.5 ohms. Lower resistance will allow more current flow which will cause overheating. Is the the whole engine shutting down or just 6 cylinders? Does it use an ignition amplifier (black box).

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An update and a question.

Firstly i hope all of you are doing well and safe
from the virus.

As you may have heard India has gone through a very
rough time. A lot of time was spent last year and again
this year in the lockdown .

In the interim we managed to rebuild the entire
suspension (including the self levelling unit
which was rebuilt in Italy).The car now has a
great stance and the suspension works the way it
should.

As you may recall, We were having trouble tuning
the car. We replaced the coils, which improved the
miss slightly but didn't resolve it completely and
she continued running very rich. We finally decided
to remove the carbs and send them to Mike Pierce
for a check. He found some minor faults which he
rectified and returned them to us after testing and
setting them on his work bench . This coupled with
tracking down a timing fault - one of the timing chains
was off the mark - there was a marked improvement
in idle and we finally got her on the road and she
finally drove well.

Ha Ha but that wasn’t the happily ever after end!

But then the next problem emerged:

We found that coolant was being thrown out from the
pipe attached to the expansion bottle when the car was
driven. If driven for about 6 miles , she was losing a
lot of coolant and started overheating .

The expansion bottle and cap were checked and were
found ok . Next , the cap on the radiator was removed
and the car kept idling at 1200 rpm . Within 2 mins the
coolant started being thrown out from the radiator
although the coolant was not hot at all . (I could put my
finger in it) . As the RPM was increased, the coolant
was thrown out more vigorously .

This got us completely foxed so we decided not
to drive the car till we get to the bottom of this
problem and fix it.

Any thoughts as to what seems to be the
problem and any suggestions and guidance on how to
resolve it?
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