Possible Resto

Post by **tyang** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:15 pm

Hey, Sheehan has a Series II GTE for sale at $109.5K! It's a driver, but probably a much better investment in money in the long run.

Tom

T308 · Post by **T308** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:44 am

CRDNLPLT wrote:There are a couple other interesting planters there that I will try and get a couple pics of. Not sure what they are but I'm sure you guys can figure it out.

Try and get a serial number on the GTE if you can.

Thanks.

Michael Bayer · Post by **Michael Bayer** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:08 am

Let me play the optimist: The money pit for a 4HL car, after the motor, is getting them all back right, a 4HL car in this state is not going to be worth doing this for 50 years, until then it still is a terrific car to blast around in if you could get it going. So Tom Shaughnessy might be 1/2 right, its worth to nothing, but don't necessarily run. The 330 motor is really bomb proof for about 60,000 miles, if the motor can be made to run, not perfect compression mind you, but just run, and the cars trans and diff are more bomb proof (the synchros suck but every one of us double clutches when cold, if not more), patina matters more and more each day so a little polish and leather balm who knows, you might get back it on the road, have a ball with it, learn the marque, then when it really gives up the ghost ship it to Tom Shaughnessy so the rest of us can call him when we need something out of it and he will say he is too busy to sell us that dear bit. So find out what state it was in when parked, let us know what you see before you do anything and if there is life in the old girl negotiate from Tom's sage advice. One thing is sure there is no better group of coaches to have at your side for each stage of this than this great bunch of wrench turners!

Post by **tyang** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:24 am

T308 wrote:
CRDNLPLT wrote:There are a couple other interesting planters there that I will try and get a couple pics of. Not sure what they are but I'm sure you guys can figure it out.
Try and get a serial number on the GTE if you can.

Thanks.

4027

gsjohnson · Post by **gsjohnson** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:31 am

Michael Bayer wrote:Let me play the optimist: The money pit for a 4HL car, after the motor, is getting them all back right, a 4HL car in this state is not going to be worth doing this for 50 years, until then it still is a terrific car to blast around in if you could get it going. So Tom Shaughnessy might be 1/2 right, its worth to nothing, but don't necessarily run. The 330 motor is really bomb proof for about 60,000 miles, if the motor can be made to run, not perfect compression mind you, but just run, and the cars trans and diff are more bomb proof (the synchros suck but every one of us double clutches when cold, if not more), patina matters more and more each day so a little polish and leather balm who knows, you might get back it on the road, have a ball with it, learn the marque, then when it really gives up the ghost ship it to Tom Shaughnessy so the rest of us can call him when we need something out of it and he will say he is too busy to sell us that dear bit. So find out what state it was in when parked, let us know what you see before you do anything and if there is life in the old girl negotiate from Tom's sage advice. One thing is sure there is no better group of coaches to have at your side for each stage of this than this great bunch of wrench turners!

That's optomistic?
It makes want to go outside and throw rocks at my 4HL car.

Yale · Post by **Yale** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:40 am

gsjohnson wrote:
Michael Bayer wrote:Let me play the optimist: The money pit for a 4HL car, after the motor, is getting them all back right, a 4HL car in this state is not going to be worth doing this for 50 years, until then it still is a terrific car to blast around in if you could get it going. So Tom Shaughnessy might be 1/2 right, its worth to nothing, but don't necessarily run. The 330 motor is really bomb proof for about 60,000 miles, if the motor can be made to run, not perfect compression mind you, but just run, and the cars trans and diff are more bomb proof (the synchros suck but every one of us double clutches when cold, if not more), patina matters more and more each day so a little polish and leather balm who knows, you might get back it on the road, have a ball with it, learn the marque, then when it really gives up the ghost ship it to Tom Shaughnessy so the rest of us can call him when we need something out of it and he will say he is too busy to sell us that dear bit. So find out what state it was in when parked, let us know what you see before you do anything and if there is life in the old girl negotiate from Tom's sage advice. One thing is sure there is no better group of coaches to have at your side for each stage of this than this great bunch of wrench turners!
That's optomistic?
It makes want to go outside and throw rocks at my 4HL car.

No Gus,

You gonna want to throw rocks at it when it breaks but you'll hug it when it runs. And you 50 years is silly. Tom will have chopped up almost all the four headlights long before then and you and me will have the only two left.

Best,

Yale

T308 · Post by **T308** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:38 am

tyang wrote:
T308 wrote:
CRDNLPLT wrote:There are a couple other interesting planters there that I will try and get a couple pics of. Not sure what they are but I'm sure you guys can figure it out.
Try and get a serial number on the GTE if you can.

Thanks.
4027

Are you sure? 4027 is complete and for sale right now with Sheehan.

http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/ca ... 50GTE-4027

Sheehan's car has what appears to be a restamped motor, did you see the chassis number or a number on the motor?

Thanks.

T308 · Post by **T308** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:41 am

Tom, as I read above, we're likely talking at cross purposes. I was asking for the s/n on the GTE in the field next to the 330, not at Sheehan's.

Thanks.

CRDNLPLT · Post by **CRDNLPLT** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:35 pm

If it does turn out to be a 4HL, which it sounds like it is, I'm probably not interested. For some reason, and this is just my opinion, those cars just don't do it for me.

I'll try and get some serial numbers if the owner is interested in giving them out on the 330 and the planters.

Michael Bayer · Post by **Michael Bayer** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:35 am

Yale: I was not trashing a 4HL 330, they are terrific cars, its only my calculation that a full up restoration on one with rust etc is underwater for decades at yesterday's prices. I figure after buying the car another 200K is required , if you have one together and running that is a differnt story. M

Yale · Post by **Yale** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:23 am

Michael Bayer wrote:Yale: I was not trashing a 4HL 330, they are terrific cars, its only my calculation that a full up restoration on one with rust etc is underwater for decades at yesterday's prices. I figure after buying the car another 200K is required , if you have one together and running that is a differnt story. M

I didn't think you were trashing them Michael, I was just expressing to Gus that he is going to have lots of opportunities to want to throw rocks at his car and the balance of payments part is only one element. I know of what I speak...as you all know. Best, Yale

gsjohnson · Post by **gsjohnson** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:26 am

Yale wrote:
Michael Bayer wrote:Yale: I was not trashing a 4HL 330, they are terrific cars, its only my calculation that a full up restoration on one with rust etc is underwater for decades at yesterday's prices. I figure after buying the car another 200K is required , if you have one together and running that is a differnt story. M
I didn't think you were trashing them Michael, I was just expressing to Gus that he is going to have lots of opportunities to want to throw rocks at his car and the balance of payments part is only one element. I know of what I speak...as you all know. Best, Yale

Gus? No me. Not sure where that came from. lol

Rudy van Daalen Wetters · Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:53 am

Ok, so far not Gregg nor Gus...process of elimination, give it some time.

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

donv · Post by **donv** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:31 pm

Any other thoughts on 4027? I don't know if I can justify another car right now, but I really like the idea of a 250GTE driver.

Probably have to wait until the price drops, at least-- if it does.

T308 wrote:
tyang wrote:
T308 wrote:
CRDNLPLT wrote:There are a couple other interesting planters there that I will try and get a couple pics of. Not sure what they are but I'm sure you guys can figure it out.
Try and get a serial number on the GTE if you can.

Thanks.
4027
Are you sure? 4027 is complete and for sale right now with Sheehan.

http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/ca ... 50GTE-4027

Sheehan's car has what appears to be a restamped motor, did you see the chassis number or a number on the motor?

Thanks.

T308 · Post by **T308** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:09 pm

donv wrote:Any other thoughts on 4027? I don't know if I can justify another car right now, but I really like the idea of a 250GTE driver.

Probably have to wait until the price drops, at least-- if it does.

Keep your powder dry. Prices area coming down and you'll be able to get a no questions car at this number very soon.