Hello All,
Does anyone have the original sale prices of Vintage Ferraris? I'm curious about them compared from model to model. I know that my car was probably sold to the owner for about $10K in 1963, and was wondering what a SWB, or Lusso went for in the same time period.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Tom
Original Ferrari Prices
Hi Tom
The May 1964 issue of Car and Driver showed a 250 GT/L Lusso with a list price of $12,900.
April 1964 issue of Sports Car Graphic listed the new 330GT at $14,000.
The October 1965 issue of R&T showed a 275 GTB at $11,000 at Modena.
That's all I have right now, maybe I can dig up more later.
John
The May 1964 issue of Car and Driver showed a 250 GT/L Lusso with a list price of $12,900.
April 1964 issue of Sports Car Graphic listed the new 330GT at $14,000.
The October 1965 issue of R&T showed a 275 GTB at $11,000 at Modena.
That's all I have right now, maybe I can dig up more later.
John
My understanding is, except for the "limited" cars like the Super America's etc, all the cars were essentially the same price per era. Around $12,000 from Chinetti in NYC during the 330GT period, though I have heard that there was some "play" there. The limited cars were substantially more given the prices for cars at the time. Yale
Car and Driver, October 1965: 275 GTS $14,500
And from Autosport (Great Britain) April 20, 1962:
400 Super America GBP 10,000
250 GT SWB GBP 6,272
250 GT Spyder California GBP 6,272
250 GT 2+2 GBP 6,272
Sorry, I don't know what the GBP/USD exchange rate was in 1962! But it is interesting to note the uniform pricing of the 250 GT range of cars!
Car and Driver of April 1963 had the 400 SA at $17,800
Finally, David E. Davis's recounting in C&D of May 1965 of driving a 275/LM from Philadelphia to New York referenced it as a "20,000 dollar race car".
John
And from Autosport (Great Britain) April 20, 1962:
400 Super America GBP 10,000
250 GT SWB GBP 6,272
250 GT Spyder California GBP 6,272
250 GT 2+2 GBP 6,272
Sorry, I don't know what the GBP/USD exchange rate was in 1962! But it is interesting to note the uniform pricing of the 250 GT range of cars!
Car and Driver of April 1963 had the 400 SA at $17,800
Finally, David E. Davis's recounting in C&D of May 1965 of driving a 275/LM from Philadelphia to New York referenced it as a "20,000 dollar race car".
John
John Ashburne
1983 400i 5 speed, silver/black
1983 400i 5 speed, silver/black
Hi All,
Thanks for the info. It's interesting to see that the 2 seaters cost the same as the 2+2s when they were new, same as today's 456, and 550 Maranellos.
I also think the use of these cars were a bit different. The two seaters were probably weekend drivers, while the 2+2s were probably used more as daily drivers because of their more useable space.
What do you guys think?
Tom
Thanks for the info. It's interesting to see that the 2 seaters cost the same as the 2+2s when they were new, same as today's 456, and 550 Maranellos.
I also think the use of these cars were a bit different. The two seaters were probably weekend drivers, while the 2+2s were probably used more as daily drivers because of their more useable space.
What do you guys think?
Tom
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soliciting opinons?
I most assuredly have opinions on 2+2s
(we don't need to go into THAT again)
I do agreee that the 2+2
would see more service
than the 2 seaters
due to their greater practicality
(and ease of use)
I think that was used as a selling feature
(mostly by guys to their wives-
look honey, see, BACK SEATS -
we can take the KIDS)
and probably still is ;)
that they are somewhat de-tuned
that is a given
they are made for 'cruzin'
as opposed to 'screamin'
I have read
(from several sources now)
how Ferrari changed his cars
in later years
to 'suit the changing tastes of owners
with the addition of 'luxury' features
such as power windows, ac, automatic, etc'
I think this is not only
because Ferrari's CLIENTS
were getting older
but that Ferrari HIMSELF
was getting older, as well
he may have come to realize
(as he got older)
that one does not necessarily want to be
crammed into a noisy, hot cockpit
and wrestle with a balky shifter
heavy steering, and stiff brakes
at least not in one's 'everyday' car
one CAN have the joys of a ferrari
with OUT having to suffer for it
I think the 2+2s were developed
to suit this reqirement
the 2+2s certainly fit the description:
Grand Touring
I most assuredly have opinions on 2+2s
(we don't need to go into THAT again)
I do agreee that the 2+2
would see more service
than the 2 seaters
due to their greater practicality
(and ease of use)
I think that was used as a selling feature
(mostly by guys to their wives-
look honey, see, BACK SEATS -
we can take the KIDS)
and probably still is ;)
that they are somewhat de-tuned
that is a given
they are made for 'cruzin'
as opposed to 'screamin'
I have read
(from several sources now)
how Ferrari changed his cars
in later years
to 'suit the changing tastes of owners
with the addition of 'luxury' features
such as power windows, ac, automatic, etc'
I think this is not only
because Ferrari's CLIENTS
were getting older
but that Ferrari HIMSELF
was getting older, as well
he may have come to realize
(as he got older)
that one does not necessarily want to be
crammed into a noisy, hot cockpit
and wrestle with a balky shifter
heavy steering, and stiff brakes
at least not in one's 'everyday' car
one CAN have the joys of a ferrari
with OUT having to suffer for it
I think the 2+2s were developed
to suit this reqirement
the 2+2s certainly fit the description:
Grand Touring
original pricing...
Hi, all ... for interest, here are the original prices for late 1969-70 models:
365GT2+2 - $18,900
BMW2002 - $3340
BMW 3.0CS - $8107
Corvette - $4502 (435hp version -$6347)
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow - $19,600
Porsche 911E - $7240
250GT Lusso (1963-64) - $13,375
365GT2+2 - $18,900
BMW2002 - $3340
BMW 3.0CS - $8107
Corvette - $4502 (435hp version -$6347)
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow - $19,600
Porsche 911E - $7240
250GT Lusso (1963-64) - $13,375
Just to help put those vintage prices in perspective, in those years, '63-'64, my old man was working as a full-time firefighter for the princely sum of $ 36.50 per WEEK! That would be about six years salary for one Ferrari.
My old man worked part-time as a mechanic in those same years. A man named Earl Plumb used to drive all six of his Ferraris to the station he worked at, because it was the only place around that sold unleaded premium fuel.
When one of the cars needed fixing, he would pull it into the bay, and call Enzo in Italy who would put a mechanic on the phone to try and explain how to perform the service.
And where did Mr. Earl Plumb get the money to own six Ferraris in the 1960's, you ask?
He invented the Plumb Bob. That's right, a weight on the end of a string.
Boy, those really were simpler times, weren't they?
My old man worked part-time as a mechanic in those same years. A man named Earl Plumb used to drive all six of his Ferraris to the station he worked at, because it was the only place around that sold unleaded premium fuel.
When one of the cars needed fixing, he would pull it into the bay, and call Enzo in Italy who would put a mechanic on the phone to try and explain how to perform the service.
And where did Mr. Earl Plumb get the money to own six Ferraris in the 1960's, you ask?
He invented the Plumb Bob. That's right, a weight on the end of a string.
Boy, those really were simpler times, weren't they?