Trim rings for Ferrari 330 America headlights

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Trim rings for Ferrari 330 America headlights

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As I decided to repaint my America in the correct colour (bianco-see topic below), I would like to use this occasion to get the correct Marshals installed - at the moment I have the Lusso-styled ones installed (maybe because it was running in the U.K), however it seems quite hard to get the correct trim rings - anybody knows about where to get those??? Thank you, Sloper
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Hi Sloper,

My 330 America came with American Sealed beam headlight with the trim rings to fit. With the scarcity of headlight rings, a lot of people have resorted to having them made.

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Hi there,

I lost a headlamp rim from my 365 GTC when out on a drive. I tried retracing my steps the next day but it must have bounced into the long grass somewhere. It took me several months and quite a few false starts to find an accurate replacement and I now have a little collection of headlight rims which are all quite close but not exactly right! No doubt I'll eventually sell them at a club meeting. Anyhow I eventually bought a perfect new replacement part from Egidio Brandoli in Italy. You could try contacting Francesca Brandoli via e-mail, info@brandoli.it. Telephone +39 059 567949. They are very knowledgeable and pleasant to deal with and seem to get things right first time.

Good luck.

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Colin Angell wrote:Hi there,

I lost a headlamp rim from my 365 GTC when out on a drive. ...Colin
I've tried to decide if it is better to wire the headlight rings on (using the drip hole at the bottom) and risk having the paint get beat up if it comes loose or just lose it. Mine seem to fit real tight, so I haven't wired them, but with the scarcity of these, perhaps I should revisit the decision. I did drill holes through the jack hole plug springs and wired them under the car, so they can't work loose.
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Has anybody some detailed pictures from what he believes are the right headlights for the 330 America? Maybe it will be possible to reproduce them?
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Guys - Gunther Hansele (www.talbotco.com) has a full assortment of correct buckets, Marchal lamps, bulbs, and trim rings for the 330 America. I had to perform the same research in 2008 (guys on this website took photo's of theirs and Gunther matched them).

He's in southern California.
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Steve, Do you have an OSCA Zagato? I always loved them but wondered what it would be like to drive and live with? Yale
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Yale - yes, I own the red one (#006) in the picture. I just bought it in November and had it shipped from Bergamo, Italy to the USA. Its getting new tires and a few minor items sorted on it prior to Texas Inspection and licensing (I'm obtaining a pair of 1960 Texas "black plates" for it).

You may recall that in 2006 I became impatient with having the 330 America in two years of restoration (at that point) and having no cool Italian GT car to drive. So I began giving serious consideration to the Lusso and later could not bring myself to spend $400K+ for one. I also gave serious consideration to a Fiat Dino Spyder but then decided to purchase a '69 DeTomaso Mangusta which is an interesting car with a very mixed set of opinions.

I decided to sell the "Goose" to a friend (deal pending) and scooped up the OSCA Zagato. This car will run circles around a 1.3 litre Alfa Guilia Sprint Zagato (which are fetching $200K-$250K) and they are far better looking. The back of the car is literally a carbon copy of a 250 SWB. I believe these are undervalued, true GT racers that are sleepers in the market right now. I think it was a smart buy and a car I can enjoy for decades to come at virtually any event except Mille Milia (due to the car not being old enough).

I just don't see any other car under $400,000 with the same pedigree and reliability from that era -- and the OSCA's are "real" Maserati cars. Its my "driver" that the 330 America was supposed to be prior to the expensive restoration.
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Thank you, Steve, for this useful information! Just wrote an email to Mr. Hansele, so hope, he got those rings...(and even could deliver them, as I will stay in Florida for 1 week) BTW, found your "old" light topic and realized, I got just the same "problems" as you had a year ago! Where did you get those buckets between the fog lights and the front body, or did you have them made?
Thank you for the help!
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"The back of the car is literally a carbon copy of a 250 SWB."

Hmm;

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On this I think you are a bit delusional:

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Aside from it being a good buy, how does it drive? Do you like being in it? Do you feel a lack of power compared to the Mangusta and GTE?

Tell all.

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Yale - OK, so I used a little metaphor :) However, a very close resemblance at 3% the price of a Competizioni SWB and I can park it at a Starbucks without having to watch it every 5 seconds.

The Mangusta has a throaty sound, reasonably nice torque, etc. but feels very wide inside despite the car being a short wheelbase vehicle with very low 40-42" total height (e.g GT40). I'm only 5' 7" so the OSCA feels like a better fit (it is smaller) but a guy 5'10" to 6' would fit perfect in the Mangusta. They're totally different cars. The light weight of the OSCA and near perfect 50/50 weight distribution make it (according to Sportscar Market Newsletter) perhaps the best 4-cylinder GT car of the postwar era. By way of example, if you think about a hallowed 4-cylinder car such as the Porsche Carrera 4-cam from the early 1960's, you're talking about a car weighing around 2,000 pounds and having only 130hp, plus decidedly more weight in the rear. While a sought-after car, the Carrera 4-cam is actually not as quick as the OSCA and certainly not Italian. Anyway, having also just bought a 1965 Ginetta G-4 for SVRA racing (see pic) I'm moving away from the 400hp+ cars and (other than keeping my '92 Carrera RS race car) focusing on sub-2.0 litre displacement cars under 2,000 pounds -- momentum cars.

Anyway, another discussion for another time. OSCA (like Maserati) simply made some incredible 1950's era race cars to compete with the likes of Ferrari. Alan Decadenet and Stirling Moss claim the Maserati 300 to be the best race car of its era (mid-1950's).
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Greetings Austria! Its been 5 years since I was there last, but a lot of fun :)

Gunther Hansele has the headlamp buckets too (NOS parts at that!) -- so you should be able to obtain everything from him. Tell him I recommended you.
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Sloper - check out www.ebay.com and search on "250 GTE" as there is a set of headlight trim rings for $19.00 USD.
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Thanks, 330 America! However, those rims seem to be a little thin, though don`t know, if they are correct.... what would you believe?
BTW. wrote Gunther Hansele 2 times, no reply until now - are they still in business?
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Sloper wrote:Thanks, 330 America! However, those rims seem to be a little thin, though don`t know, if they are correct.... what would you believe?
They are the "frenched" rims for GT/E S.1-2 - not the proud ones used on S.3/America!
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