Battery

[Jim]

Last year I was watching "How its made" on the science channel, and the topic was lead acid batteries. They were filming the manufacture of very interesting batteries at the Odyssey Battery plant. I then Googled Odyssey, and discovered something new in car batteries. They use pure lead (read: more expensive), which allows the batteries to work better and longer than conventional lead acid, and they are the only car battery that can be shipped by mail to customers, because of their proprietary non-liquid technology. I'm personally tired of tar top battery misbehaviors/unreliability. http://www.odysseybatteries.com
Take care,
Jim

[carello]

Just another ad from 1932 for Marelli. Lifting lugs, dog bones, Exide license, vertical stripes

[carello]

Just another data point from December of 1967, Italian magazine ad. Was this style FIAMM battery ever seen as OEM in the same period Ferrari?
Craig

[mdempsey]

I hate to do this but....I hereby declare that Mr. Kizer has way too much time on his hands....Just kidding I am jeolous that I still have to work. Great job on the fake top!

[Tom Wilson]

And more...

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[Tom Wilson]

Not much detail here, but some cool photos of the Fiamm Batteries being assembled in 1963.
These are from the same article as the horn photo.

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[330GT]

Here are some pictures of 330 GT engine compartments with at least some of the battery visible. These are from period magazines in the mid-60s, so presumably the batteries were the originals. As you can see, several different varieties.

[carello]

Hi Tom and Kerry, Great documents for battery photos, thanks.
I would like to request a cropped, 600dpi scan of just the battery from the following photos, when you get a chance.

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SM196404_6.gif
Moteurs196403_6.gif
This battery seems to show a light colored top, and flag tab cell caps, and i am not at all familiar with this. Anybody provide helps with this?
Craig

[330GT]

Hi Tom and Kerry, Great documents for battery photos, thanks.
I would like to request a cropped, 600dpi scan of just the battery from the following photos, when you get a chance.

R&T196504_3.gif
SM196404_6.gif
Moteurs196403_6.gif
This battery seems to show a light colored top, and flag tab cell caps, and i am not at all familiar with this. Anybody provide helps with this?
Craig

These are Baroclem batteries.

From UK Sporting Motorist 4/64 issue

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From Road & Track 4/65 issue

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The R&T pictures look like factory press release pictures, so quite sure it is the original battery.

From French magazine Moteurs 3/64 issue

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BTW, if you click on any picture, the scroll bars disappear the the picture is shown in full size (though wide ones get cropped on the right).

In looking at some 330 GT build sheets:
4969/America - Baroclem M11
5407 - Baroclem M11
5457 - Baroclem M11
5629 - Marelli 6 AC 11
5767 - Marelli 6 AC 11
6097 - Marelli 6 AC 11 (Yale's car)
7291 - Safa 6 SFS 4
8101 - Safa 6 SFS 4
8205 - Safa 6 SFS 4
8325 - Safa 6 SNS 5 74 AH
8325 - Safa 6 SNS 5 74 AH
8755 - Safa 6 SNS 5 74 AH (Mine)
8855 - Safa 6 SNS 5 74 AH (Lowell's car)
10019 - Safa 6 SNS 5 74 AH

[Tom Wilson]

In looking at some 330 GT build sheets:

For GTE 4247 you can add Baroclem M11

[Rudy van Daalen Wetters]

I had a car shipped from Amsterdam to the USA but before doing so had the
battery replaced. The replacement battery was the German made VARTA.
Outstanding, typical German, superb quality this battery can start a Panzer
tank in a Russian winter. I am disappointed with modern day batteries,
they don't last at all anymore.

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

[Deane]

Also worthy of note, every one of those old engine bay photos showed rounded battery cable ends (terminal clamps), like the ones Mike Dunn reproduces at madenterprise. I never managed to get a definitive square-vs-round consensus while I owned my 330GTS. I wound up changing the ground cable to the rounded style because it was visible (no rubber cover over the clamp), but didn't remove the exhaust manifold just to swap out the positive cable.

[carello]

What is the color scheme of the Baroclem period style battery? It appears light on top. Cell cap colors? The top looks like a skin over the entire top with holes cut out to allow access to the lead dogbones.
anyone have details on this?
Craig

[carello]

SAFA battery photo. What does SAFA stand for?

[Rudy van Daalen Wetters]

Comment SAFA? SAFA bien, merci.

Learned that in French class...

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705