Power Windows in my 330 GTC

[Rudy van Daalen Wetters]

"Success is 99% failure"

Do not give up!

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

[Steve Meltzer]

OK, I won't give up, but can I take a BF hammer to the whole darn thing? s

[Rudy van Daalen Wetters]

Perhaps not yet....find some old soda cans and blast away.
Then, go outsmart that window motor, it's too simple to get
the better of you, is my thought.

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

[Steve Meltzer]

thanx for your confidence...we'll see asap and I'll report back. s

[TOMKIZER]

Boy, I'm good! I took apart the Ducellier motor, cleaned it up, lubed the hemispherical bearings on the ends, and put it back together.

It doesn't screech anymore. In fact, it doesn't run at all - it just grunts when I put 12V to it.

I'll have to do it all over again. At least it will be a cleaner job the next time.

The Thunderbird motor is still better than the Ducellier motor ever was. Do you think the judge will dock me points for having a power window that works in an un-Ferrari manner?

Tom Kizer

[Steve Meltzer]

Heck, the judges should give you points for a sense of humor...and daring! s

[afwrench]

"Success is 99% failure"

Do not give up!

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

Rudy , if "Success is 99% failure " then is "Failure 1% success"? I'm confused! Either way I think I'm on the short end of the "Success" end of things. Mike

[Rudy van Daalen Wetters]

Mike,

"Fall seven times, stand up eight"

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

[afwrench]

Mike,

"Fall seven times, stand up eight"

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

Rudy, I think I'm starting to get it but that is only 87.5%. Probably close enough for me to hope for. Mike

[Rudy van Daalen Wetters]

"If you think you can, you can. If you think you can't,
you're right" Henry Ford


Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

[Yale]

Channeling you inner Tony Robbins here? Or is this Dale Carnegie?

[Rudy van Daalen Wetters]

Close, Deepak Chopra...

Rudy van Daalen Wetters
1963 GTE s/n 4001
1966 330 GT s/n 8705

[Steve Meltzer]

OK, I found that the Ford PW motor I'd put in the car back in April, having worked 30 times or so, had given up the ghost. When out of the car and hooked to a 12V source, the ground wire of the motor became super hot, melting it's own sheath instantly. I put in another motor yesterday and it works great, but so did its sibling months ago.

In my car, the 3 wires that provide power to the 4 wire motor (the 4th is the motor's ground) emerge from under the dash, and through the door. One simply wires the motor to these wires and, viola, you have working power windows. (yes, I really did say "viola"...we've been through this before!) So far so good. But there's also a 3 terminal block, mounted to the door, which has a ground wire and another wire that runs to some little device inside the door, outboard, for which I find no use. What am I missing here? I've just ignored this 3 terminal block, as in my current setup (yes, pun intended, tho' revolting), everything seems to work well. The current draw at the fuse block is 10-11amps, which seems reasonable to me. Just wondering if my choice of ignoring the 3 terminal block maybe related to the recent PW motor failure. Not sure why that would be, but would appreciate any help. thanx steve meltzer "when you're up to your ass in
alligators, it's hard to remember that you originally came to drain the swamp"

[Steve Meltzer]

I'd would be grateful for any input on the above post. Here's an update, and thus my consternation: I drove the car this AM and the (new/rebuilt Ford) motor does seem to work, better going down than up. However, with minimal use, the finger switch going up felt "sticky" and the motor was slow. Since I'd left the panel off, I could feel the motor and with just that minimal use, it was very hot. Clearly, something's not right here. I think it has to do with my bypassing the little three terminal block attached the inside fo the door. What does this thing do, and how do I corporate that in my wiring? thanx s

[tyang]

Hi Steve,

I'm not claiming to know how to fix your problem, but I wanted to think this through with you and others on this site to try figure out what's going on. 12 volts going to the motor should not heat things up like you described that quickly unless that motor is not rated to run on 12 volts. Have you metered the leads to the motor to see if there is any current going to the motor even without the switch being moved? Does anyone know if there were limiting switches in a GTC window mechanism?

Tom