Tool Bag

[tim]

Greetings... As I was just talking about tool bags, if you happen to have the bag and tools for 5769, you may return them to me no questions asked. When I bought the Big Yellow Taxi 36 years ago, no bag. I've looked at bags over the years and found them a bit more pricey than I wanted to go. $800 or more for a bag in need of repair just didn't seem a good deal. $1000 plus for a repro similarly didn't do it. Recently on eBay, I saw a repro bag at what I thought was doable. I contacted the seller and found that he was also the maker. There was another similar bag on eBay for 50% more money and he was certain it was one of his being sold by someone else. A bit ago, I asked about the "correct" pattern-smooth or grained and Dyke pointed out the silliness some of us go to. Bags were produced by several different companies to a general specificaton supplied by Ferrari so there may be differences in things like stiching spacing, holes punched in straps and such. His bags were for 275's and 330's. I had this bag with me at Tom's Monterey gathering and differences between it and a 250 bag were pointed out but they are most likely due to different makers of the originals that were being copied. I showed it to a local here in North California who is a Concours judge and he had a one word comment-"fabulous". Another restorer visiting from Florida saw it and immediatly wanted one. What-you say-is the price? $550 US. Maker is Richard Ward at my62helms@yahoo.com 818-996-0886 Tim

[John Vardanian]

Pardon my ignorance, but where is this to be used? It looks like it would fit to the end of the grease gun and would grease something. I was lubing the chassis today and saw this and wondered if I am leaving something out. Thanks.

john

[DWR46]

John: The Grease Gun Adapter is for lubing the propshaft U-joints. On many of the cars, a grease fitting in the U-joint adds enough length to cause the fitting to hit the tunnel as the suspension moves and the shaft travels up and down and forward and backward. So the factory installed low profile plugs in the joints. Remove the plug, insert the adapter , grease the joint, replace the plug. And yes, I have personally seen Ferraris that will break the zerks off of the joints when driven. Do not ask how I know this.

[John Vardanian]

Thanks Dyke, as always. Someone had fit a Zerk on the U-joint, it turns out.

Another question, aside from this U-joint, all the other fittings are the "button" type, except the ones in the steering ball joints. Did the ball joints also have button fittings originally? Thanks.

john

[DWR46]

John: I would need to see a photo of one of your ball joints.

[330GT]

Pardon my ignorance, but where is this to be used? It looks like it would fit to the end of the grease gun and would grease something. I was lubing the chassis today and saw this and wondered if I am leaving something out. Thanks.

john

Photos courtesy of Lowell Brown
Plug:

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Extension where plug was:

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Note, this extension is later than John's with a Zerk fitting rather than the flat button of earlier cars.

[John Vardanian]

Thanks Kerry, I just went thru all this and used the hole of that little plug screw to pull out/put in the cotter pin that goes in the pinion shaft castle nut. I am curious as to what is there that needs to be greased. There is no moving part there. There is just a cavity and that cavity is where the little driveshaft "mushroom" goes. I think that mushroom is there to keep the driveshaft from falling down in case the U-joints break.

john

[John Vardanian]

John: I would need to see a photo of one of your ball joints.

Hi Dyke, here is a picture of the ball joints.

john

[Lowell]

Thanks Kerry, I just went thru all this and used the hole of that little plug screw to pull out/put in the cotter pin that goes in the pinion shaft castle nut. I am curious as to what is there that needs to be greased. There is no moving part there. There is just a cavity and that cavity is where the little driveshaft "mushroom" goes. I think that mushroom is there to keep the driveshaft from falling down in case the U-joints break.

john

The 3330 grease fitting on the front of the drive shaft is to grease the splines that move in and out as the rear end bounces back and forth, effectively changing the length of the drive shaft.

I was at Pebble Beach a few years ago when Bruce McCaw's 250 Spirementale was being judged. The car had button grease fitting. That little drive shaft fitting had a Zerk fitting. He had some fraction of a point deducted. I think that he lost out to --- if memory serves (which it most often does not) --- Jon Shirley. I know more details of this story that I think that I should keep to myself.

[250GT]

Thanks Kerry, I just went thru all this and used the hole of that little plug screw to pull out/put in the cotter pin that goes in the pinion shaft castle nut. I am curious as to what is there that needs to be greased. There is no moving part there. There is just a cavity and that cavity is where the little driveshaft "mushroom" goes. I think that mushroom is there to keep the driveshaft from falling down in case the U-joints break.

john

John,
Between murhroom and 4 eye flage there should be a metal-spacering that why you can put in some grace there.
you´re picture below shows a rear axle of 1963/64 , NOT of an PF coupe .
these also owns a spacering in between see partscatalog.

C.

[250GT]

Lowell wrote:
"
The 3330 grease fitting on the front of the drive shaft is to grease the splines that move in and out as the rear end bounces back and forth, effectively changing the length of the drive shaft."

Glad to be not the only one with typing mistakes.

But this is maybe interesting ,I do own a 4 speed gearbox with intergrated sliding mechanic in the back.
so the prop shaft if stiff.
Comes probebly out of an SWB or LUSSO
Somebody reconise this works modification ?
bought at Auto Toni just oposite of Ferrari works in around 1992.

C.

[DWR46]

John:

1. Your tie rod ends with the zerk fittings are correct. That is the style the factory went to after the adjustable all metal ends.

2. The drive shaft "mushroom" is to keep the rubber donut aligned. It is VERY IMPORTANT that this be greased well. Wear on this item will create major driveshaft vibrations. There is much more wear possibilities here than you may think. If it is allowed to wear too much, the only solution is to have it metal sprayed and re-ground to size, or to insert a sleeve in the shaft and remachine.

[John Vardanian]

Dyke, I am still trying to understand... so if not properly lubricated, is it the mushroom that wears? Thanks.

john

[DWR46]

John: Most of the wear will occur on the mushroom, though both rubbing surfaces will wear. If the inner surface of the shaft, where the mushroom rides, is worn, we have successfully used spacer washers on the donut to move the shaft just enough for the mushroom to then ride on a "fresh" surface.

[250GT]

John: Most of the wear will occur on the mushroom, though both rubbing surfaces will wear. If the inner surface of the shaft, where the mushroom rides, is worn, we have successfully used spacer washers on the donut to move the shaft just enough for the mushroom to then ride on a "fresh" surface.

Well original a " tappo ad espansione " was placed inside.
I made these out of rubber nowadays to protect the mushroom.
AFAIK they were made out of steel in those days but are unsure.
I only have seen this only once.
Sorry for the brown pics but my WSM is old and used

C.