Nice Pininfarina / Ferrari wooden body buck photos

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Evan Smith
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Nice Pininfarina / Ferrari wooden body buck photos

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Hello Ferrari lovers,
I hope I'm not double posting, but maybe I accidently posted earlier in the archives?
Anyway, you may enjoy my 12 Pininfarina / Ferrari wooden body buck / styling model photos from the L' Idea Ferrari exhibit on the grounds of Forte Belvedere overlooking Florence Italy.
Included are photos of the body bucks for the 1966 365 P, 1964 500 Superfast, 1966 330 GTC, 1969 512 S etc.

Go to:

http://forums.wcha.org/showthread.php?s ... genumber=1

Scroll down to my (Evan Smiths) posts, starting with "Pretty wooden bucks by Pinin Farina #1," read the backstory and or open the "attachment" (1 low resolution photo per attachment for online viewing). On page two of my posts is a photo of a mystery wooden Ferrari watercraft in venetian waters. Hint, it has central steering.

Best, Evan Smith
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Hi Evan,

Thanks for sharing! Great pictures. The interesting thing is one of the pictures is labeled a 330 GTC, which didn't look right. It looked familier, but not a as a standard GTC. After some research, I found that car to be a special bodied 330GTC 9653 built for Princess Lilliane De Rethy according to Antoinre Prunet's "The Ferrari Legend: The Road Cars. (p356-357)

http://forums.wcha.org/attachment.php?s ... ostid=4674

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Post by Evan Smith »

Aha Tom, nice detective work! It's like a 330GTC with a 275 GTB longnose or something.
But, can you ID the mystery Ferrari watercraft with central steering in the venetian canal? :D

http://forums.wcha.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=4693
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The nose on that special GTC is from a 365 California which was penned by Pininfarina about the same time.

As far as your watercraft is concerned, maybe that design should stay on land! :-)

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The body work looks very similar to the '67 365 GT 2+2 except for the higher "hard" waistline on the 365 vs. the more "creamy" or rounded 330.
BTW I think the 330 was Pininfarinas first Ferrari...?

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic.mv?i ... =1&num=144

The mystery watercraft is a '66 365P Speciale. A little photoshop knowledge is a dangerous thing!
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv ... =143&left=

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? Ferrari 330 Pininfarina's first ?

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Evan,

You must mean that was the first model he owned?

I am pretty sure he was designing for Ferrari before that model, but he may not have been the first Ferrari body designer. Alot of early Ferraris were bodied by Toruing, Ghia and Vignale.

According to www.Barchetta.cc the first Pinin Farina bodied Ferrari is:
0177E a 212 Inter Cabriolet, 1952.

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What a stupid sentence ...

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...

[quote]I am pretty sure he was designing for Ferrari before that model, but he may not have been the first Ferrari body designer. [/quote]

I then stated that he wasn't, thus we know that he only started bodying Ferraris from '52 onwards, and that is 4 years after they started.

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330 GTC Speciale questions etc.

Post by Evan Smith »

Hey...More cutting and pasteing of things I don't know all that much about...

Re: Sergio Pininfarinas first Ferrari...
..."We also made the elegant and very compact 330 GTC; we worked hard to endow her with the best of our productive know-how, and of our quallty and reliability.
It was my first Ferrari: at 40, designing, building and owning a Ferrari was fantastic. I used it every day, in all seasons, everywhere. Unforgettable!" Sergio PininFarina 1997

The GTC body buck is for the (five?) 330 GTC "Pininfarina speciales," which were built from 1967-1969 (not 1966?) chassis #'s 09439-10241
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ferrarissime/MO ... GTCPF.html

330 GTC "berlinetta" (a speciale) check out this wire wheeled black beauty
http://www.geocities.com/fgto288/330.html

The 330 GTC speciales coachwork is similar to the 365 GT 2+2 but prettier, in my opinion. Anyone wan't to chime in on what they think or know the differences are?
http://www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehic ... ar_id=1321

1 of 3(?) Shortwheel base 330 GTC Speciales (Chassis # 9439 for Princess Liliane de Rethy) The two others are # 9653 and # 10241. The following 330 register says these three were all built in 1967.
http://www.330register.com/searchresults.cfm

Since one source says there were 5 GTC 330 GTC Speciales and another says there were 3 built on "a special short wheelbase version designed for competition berlinetas," does this mean there are 2 long wheelbase versions out there? If they exist are they 2+2's?

Re: the wooden body bucks, the following excerpt came from the Pinifarina site:

That onslaught of ideas and shapes was augmented by the perfect support system. “Their collaborators often came from the furniture industry, so they were used to working with wood”, observes Tom Tjaarda, an American designer based in Turin since 1959, who worked at Pininfarina for several years. “That is why, when they made the wooden body bucks and styling models, they could easily translate what people like Pininfarina wanted into three-dimensional forms.” Ferrari 410 SA (Superamerica) chassis #0483 SA exemplifies Tjaarcia’s observation. First shown at 1956’s Paris Auto Show, it sports one of the 1950s’ coolest names, Superfast I.”.

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Post by Bryan P »

I'd seen pictures of the 330 GTC speciale before in Prunet's 'Road Cars' - I hadn't realized there were three (or five) of them. As an owenr of a 365GT2+2, I absolutely love the shpae of the 365 - however, I have to say that the design of the Speciale has better proportions. I believe the problem most critics have of the 365 2+2 is the transition between roof/rear window/rear quarter window. That condition looks much more resolved on the Speciale (esp. in a pure side view, disregarding the completely different rear window design). The difficulty for Pinifarina on the 365 was stretching the roof - the wheelbase for the 365 (2650mm) is a full 10 " longer than on the Speciale (2400mm).
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